So I’m curious,

How do you speel these words in Filipino.

Picture. Piksur? peekchure? peksor? picher? Pachoor? Pekcher? Picsoor? Picshure? Pixur? Pixor? Pecsure? Or as you spell it Piktsur?

Proposal. Pruposal? Propawsol? Prupusel? Prapowzil? Or as you spell it propowzal?

How about the many other words?

Pers, u teyk a picsoor to pet en yoor prupusel so det u ken mob on to pinalayz ebriteng els?

Does that make any sense?

Dapat na tandaan na magkakaiba ang alfabet, fonetiks, neytsur atbp. ng mga wika. Sa Filipino, kung papaano ang pagbigkas, iyon rin sa pagsulat.

Ang Filipino marahil ang isa sa may pinakamalawak (wala akong maisip na ibang adjektiv) na vokabyulari sa mundo. Para sa salitang “picture”, merong tayong ‘larawan’ (mula sa Tagalog), ‘letrato’ (mula sa Spanish), at ‘picture’ (mula sa English). Sa ginawang rivizyon ng Filipino alfabet at ispeling, maidadagdag na ang “piktsur” (mula sa English) na nasa anyong Filipino.

Hindi maaaring ispelinging [(ispelin/iispel/baybayin atbp.) kitam, talagang napakalago ng vokabyulari (talasalitaan/vocabulary/lexicon/leksikon atbp) ng Filipino?] ‘piksur’, ‘peekchure’, ‘peksor’, ‘picher’, ‘pekcher’, ‘picsoor’, ‘picshure’, ‘pixur’, ‘pixor’ o
‘peccsure’ ang salitang English na ‘picture’ kundi “pikstur” lamang dahil vinavayoleyt nito ang tuntunin sa Filipino ispeling.

Ang bigkas sa ‘picture’ ay ‘/piktsur/’. Ang iba, kakaiba ang pronunsieysyon dito marahil ay: 1) wala silang bakgrawnd kung paano ito ipronawns, o kung meron man, 2) nahihirapan sila dahil ito ang banyagang salita.

Ang baybay sa ‘picture’ ay ‘PIKTSUR’ dahil ang mga tunog na /p/, /i/, /k/, /ts/, /u/ at /r/ (ayon sa tamang pagkakasunod-sunod) ang bumubuo sa salitang ito.

a) Maaaring baybayin ito ng karaniwang Filipino na ‘pektsur’, pektsor’ o ‘piktsor’ dahil natural sa Filipino ang pagpapalitan ng mga letrang E at I at ng O at U. Subalit ang mga nabanggit na ispeling ay MALI.

b) Maaaring baybayin ito na ‘piktyor’, ‘piksur’, ‘peksor’ abtp. ayon sa kung papaano nila ito bigkasin o beysd sa INAAKALA nilang tamang paraan ng pagbigkas sa salitang ito, subalit ang mga nabanggit na ispeling ay MALI.

c) Maaaring baybayin ito na ‘pixur’/'pixor’, ‘picher’/'pecher’, ‘picshure’/picsoor’/'peekchure’ atbp. dahil sa kawalan ng alam sa tuntunin ng tamang ispeling. Hindi nila alam na ang mga letrang X, C, at CH ay HINDI maaaring gamitin kung iispelingin nila sa Filipino ang mga banyagang salitang may tunong /ks/ (X), /k/ (C) at /ts/ (CH). At hindi nila alam na ang English fonetiks na /oo/ para sa Filipino fonetiks na /u/, /ch/ para sa /ts/ atbp. ay HINDI maaaring gamitin (ng magkasabay o hindi) sa Filipino.

Hindi rin maaaring ispelinging ‘pruposal’, ‘propawsol’, ‘prupusel’, ‘prapowzil’ atbp. ang salitang English na ‘proposal’ kundi “propowsal” lamang dahil vinavayoleyt nito ang tuntunin sa Filipino ispeling. Siguro kahit ikaw, VegasFilAmGuy, wala ka pang naririnig na taong binigkas ang salitang ito ng ganito kundi IKAW lang.

Ano nga ba ang mas magandang paraan na pag “spell” sa Filipino? ang nakaugalian o ang bagito?

Ian,

[In natural Filipino mode] Hindi dapat bumuo ng national language o nag-assign ng isang wika para maging basehan ng national language. Tinutukan sana ang pagpapaunlad sa mga pangunahin wika sa Pilipinas.

Natural lang na maiintindihan ng mas nakararaming Pilipino ang Tagalog dahil ito ang ginagamit ng media. Kaya ito ang magiging lingua franca ng bansa. Subalit ang pag-angat sa isang wika bilang national language ay mali lalo pa’t napakaraming wika at diyalekto sa Pilipinas.

Para sa akin, mas magandang paraan ng pagbabaybay ay yung nakasanayan o yung natural na paraan. [Pero kung namulat ako sa panahon na ang paraan ng pagbabaybay ay pag-phi-Philippinize, maaaring ang sagot ko rin ay “ung nakasanayan o yung natural na paraan” (pag-phi-Philippinize)].

Natural lang na ang reaksyon natin sa revolution ng spelling sa Filipino ay negative dahil ibang pamaraan ang kinagisnan (kinamulatan?) natin.

Gagamitin ko ang analogy-ing ito: Napakagaling sa computer ng mga kabataan ngayon. Yung pamangkin kong 3 years old, alam kung paano laruin ang Vice City! Daig pa ang lolo nya na kahit ang magpagalaw ng mouse, hindi marunong!

ano spelling ng czechoslovakia sa tagalog?

alam poh ba ninyo yong retorika?

Sa paghahanap ko ng mga sample research , eh napadpad ako dito. I was about to click the back icon but the spelling of these words caught my attention. Naalala ko yung dalubguro nmin sa Filipino, I realized the sense of his teachings. Sana matapos ko na yung riserts ko. Nice blog anyway! (^_^)

anong ibig sabihin ng talasalitaan???

Naghahanap rin ako ng sample research na pwedeng ireview as related literature, at napadpad din ako dito. btw, “Towards the Standardization of Filipino: Focus on the Vowels of English Loan Words” nga pala ang thesis namin, tatlo kami sa grupo, galing sa UP ComSci.
wala lang. mukhang makakatulong ang blog mo.

Naku! Sa De La Salle-Dasma siguro. ComSci as-in BS-Computer Science? Vowels at hindi consonants? Magaling!

hello po sa inyo ask ko lng kung ano meaning ng TALASALITAAN….. tnx alot..

key words ibig sabihin mga salitang dapat hanapan ng singkahugan para lubos na maunawaan agad-agad

hakbang kung paano gagawa ng tisis.

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